“ASK states feminist equalization ‘a slow process'” (1971)
An article from a special supplement on the Women’s Liberation Movement that appeared in the Northeastern University News. NU president Asa S. Knowles discusses NU’s efforts to address the lack of women in top administrative and academic posts. Northeastern University News. Vol. LII, No. 14, page 5.
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Women at Northeastern: ASK states feminist equalization 'a slow process'
Women at Northeastern: ASK states feminist equalization 'a slow process'
Women at Northeastern: ASK states feminist equalization 'a slow process'
Women at Northeastern: ASK states feminist equalization 'a slow process'
Northeastern University News
Northeastern University News
1971-02
1971-02
Women's liberation movement
Feminism
Women in the workplace
University administration
Women's liberation movement
Feminism
Women in the workplace
University administration
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Women's liberation movement
Feminism
Women in the workplace
University administration
Women at Northeastern: ASK states feminist equalization 'a slow process'
Women at Northeastern: ASK states feminist equalization 'a slow process'
women at northeastern ask states feminist equalization a slow process
1971/02/01
Women at Northeastern: ASK states feminist equalization 'a slow process'
1971-02
Women's liberation movement
Gelinas, Mary
Gelinas, Mary
Northeastern University News
Gelinas, Mary
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SuppleiDent: woiDen at Northeastern Co-op discrimination hampers placement by BARRY GILBERT "Discrlmination is a very underhanded thing,u said Roy L Wooldridge, vice· president and dean of co- operative education, in an interview on sex discrimi· nation in co- op jobs. The dean was refering to discrimination of all types-by race, and religion as well as sex-as he aclmowledged the difiiculty of proving charges of discrimination. 11 Wa could refuM to cleal with employers w. feel are discriml· nating -oalnst women," Wool· dridge ulcL "But what does that do to the men alrNdy worldng on co-op for that company? They would be out of a lob and that wouldn't be falr elther." The dean said that he has directed bis staff to ask employers if they would tate a woman as well as a man on co-op. •Tm sure discrimination because of sex still must happen on co-op jobs," he continued. ..The problem is that men think in terms of umen" for certain jobs, they never picture having a women for some of these jobs." "For insta.nce," he said, •'the word boy" is built into certain Job titles, like ofiice boy or copy boy. Its almost a tradition. rm sure tbis is cban:ging today but the surprise fadol' on the employers part still remains, they're just not used to the idea." The dean feels the co-op situation is a bit different because pay seales are based on the year of the student, rather than the whim of the employer. "A mlddler WOIMft would be Plid the sarne as • mlddler man," he said. ''The problem comes In placing women in certaln industries. lt would be v ry diff1cut to place a woman engineering student wlth a constructlon proi· ect; th refore, rnost wornen en· gineering rnaiors work for consulting flr4ms on the deslgning ttnd of the business/' Wooldridge estimated that coop unemployment is about six per cent now, including the two per cent which are usually not placed despite the economic situation. "The one tield the recession has not hit," the dean said, "is the health sciences." "And even here," he added, "discrimination can be a problem because of traditional ideas. A chief nurse in a hospital may not be ready for a male nursing student-a kind of reverse bounce." Demands and demonstrations to the co-op department by women have happened, Ryded added. "Two years ago we received a petition from wom.en in business admilli.stMtion," he explained. "They charged discrimination against certain employers because they didn't feel they were getting the same chances as a man of equal standing. ' "As 1 r.collect, we couldn't subst•ntla~a the charge. Discrimina· tlon ls not sornethlng you can really put your finger on. Usually its a feeling which only the in· dividuals lnvolved can expresa." The dean again explained how difficult it is to prove discrimination. "fve repeatedly told my people not to become a party to discrimination of any kind. I feel tbings are changing. Today it depends more on the ability level of a person rather than on sex." - Frank Moy, Jr. There are stiU the teas lor lemale transler students, and lemale seniors; there's still the the manifestation of women in a sexual stereotype in Carnival, Military Ball and HomecominA Queens. But, where are the opportunities for a woman to choose what she wants to do -the Iogical extension of treatinA her equally?" 11 Women 'can' gel top jobs-few do By AL YCE BOUCHARD Top executive positions here are overwhelmingly dominated by men. Only two of the 23 deans in the university are women, and of 31 associates and assistant deans, only four are women. The colleges and departments are almost exclusively headed by men, with the exception of the College of Nursing and Boston Bouve. Professional positions are highly male-dominated in all departments, again excepting Nursing and Boston Bouve. According to Kenneth G. Ryder, vice president of administration, this phenomena is mainly due to the fact that men go on for the doctoral degree in far greater numbers than women. "Women are hired on the same criteria as men," said Ryder. "But they don't get special consideration if they don't meet the qualifica tions." Ryder pointed out that the male-female ratios are dependent upon the fields - for instance, there are no female administra- ASK states feminist equalization 'a slow process' By MARY GELINAS "'f.he university is leaning over backwards to remedy" the paucity of women in top administrative and academic posts according to President Asa S. Knowles. The president indicated, in an interview last week, that he had emphasized the importance of hiring hoth women and blacks in memorandums to and discussions With university administrators and department heads. However, equalizing the number of women in higher education With that of men "is a slow process." Knowles indicated that the equalization would probably take a long time because of the number ~men in tenured positions, the ted number of those pos~, the 1 ength of time reqt.úred to gain tenureship, and the nwnber of women qualified to fill the positions. He feels the only way to change the situation is to fill positions with "qualified" women when they open. However, Knowles said that there are few positions open and that there is little turnover in administrative positions, t he re by making it impossible presently for women to be included in administration and leadership. Knowles indicated t h a t the dearth of women at the top, however, was not a result of discriminatory hiring practices. "The university never gives preference to men over women if they have the same administrative experience and ability. "In fact, I might even lean towards hiring women. I wish we had more women in administration. In the 25 years rve been in university administration rve observed that women do as good, and often better than men.'' He added that the quality of work depends on the individual and that "sex doesn't have anything to do with it" If, as Knowles stated, "Women are not being discriminated against in any way I can see or know about," then why are there only two fernale heads of colleges; why are all department heads, with the exception of those in Nursing and Boston Bouve, male; and why are only two of the 23 deans women? "It's been a matter of tradition," explained Knowles. 'The emphasis on women in administration is new." Referring to the total absence of women frorn the Division of Cooperative Education untill960, Knowles said it was ''nothing discriminatory. I don't think any women applied." (Continuecl on Page 8) tors or instructors in the School of Engineering, but in the College of Nursing, headed by Dean Juanita Long, 100 per cent are women. But in the Colleges of Liberal Arts and F!ducation there is mixed interest and the faculty composition is accordingly mixed, but with a much higher percentage of men holding executive and professional positions. Of the 114 full professors in the eight basic colleges, four aré women; of 185 associate professors, 21 are women; and of 175 assistant professors, 38 are women. For overall university statistics see the chart on Page 8. Ryder attributes this proportion to the number of women applicants. "1 am unaware of any conscious bias," he said in regards to biring and professional appointments. "We try to get people with doctorates, and if you look at the ratio of men to women going on for doctorate degrees, you find those with doctorates are overwhelmingly men," he said. Ryder noted that a higher percentage of women have applied for faculty positions this year, partly because of newly developing programs of greater interest to women. Sex makes no difference in hiring and appointments, according to Ryder. "Women are paid the same salaries as men in comparable positions." He pointed out that all salaries are based on scale, determined by position, and tenure, regardless of sex. On the other hand, many women whose jobs are defined as secretaria! have been handling assignments above their secre(Contlnuecl on Page 8) �Northeastern NEWS, February 19, 1971 Page 8 Female jocks receive little support • Doherty ••• by DALE KING Will women ever be competing with the men in varsity sports? Not likely, according to a poll taken among coaches and athletic department personnel. A separate league for the women to compete against one another at the varsity level was suggested as arr alternative to inte~ grating male and female athletes into present varsity ranks. "As long as there are true gentlemen - and let us hope there will always be true gentlemen there would always be the tendency among men to let the woman go ahead," said Athletic Director Herbert Gallagher. "In combative sports the gentlemen will always give way to the ladies." Gallagher noted that in a tennis match, for example, a man would not think twice about smashing the hall into the face of a male opponent. If the opponent were female "the man would likely hit the ball to one side." In track, if a male and female were running neck-to-neck, "a gentleman would let the lady ci'06s the fini's h line first." "Mala and female competition in hard contact varsity sports ls not practlcal," sald Asslstant Athletic Director Joe Zabllski, head coach of NU football. "lt might be fun for the boys, but lt wouldn't be fun for the glriL" Coach Zabilsk:i favored a gi'l"ls varsity league, noting that competition is good for both sexes. He added, however, that bo.th men and women could compete on an equal basis in track, swimming or other sports not requiring hard contact. "Girls should gf> in for the feminine sports which would develop their graces and ladylike qualities," said Zabilski. Football Line Coach Robert "Bo" Lyons agreed with Coach Zabilski noting that ''football is not the game for girls. 1 don't believe in contact sports other than on a date!" "They could probably play basehall," said Lyons, "but hockey and basketball isn't their place. You wouldn't want to see a girl with a broken nose, would you?'' "M n are physically stronger than women and 1 don't think the two will ever play hockey sideby-side,'' NU Hockey Coach Fernie Flaman said. "1 would like to s women play hockey on their own level if they are in· terested in playlng the game." "The contact of a hockey game sort of precludes the mixing of the two sexes - after all, there are other contact sports men and women can engage in!" lf Flaman e. er found a girl v with Bobby Orr's hockey abilities, however, "I'd personally use her, although there would be a question of eligibility." Track Coaches Irwin Cohen and Ev Baker tossed around the question of women in varsity sports by conjecturing on how Chi Chen, woman athlete of the year, would do in the Greater Boston College meet. Coach Cohen felt she probably wouldn't plaee, noting that her He mentioned that there were "many" women administrators in the Admissions Office, Division of Co-operative Education, and Graduate Placement. According to the Faculty Staff Directory there are five female administrators out of 11 in admissions; 31 of 64 in co-op; and one out of five in placement. Following the usual trend in the university only one of the five women in admissions is an assistant dean of admissions, the other four are assistant directors of admissions; only one is an associate professor in co-op, two are assistant professors, and the rest are instructors or administrative assistants; and the women in placement is an assistant placement officer. The lack of women administrators also explains why there are only two women - both elected by the faculty of the College of Nursing - on the 40member Faculty Senate. Although none of the ten administrationappointed members are women, Knowles said they have been in the past and that membership has to rotate. He said that one woman in administration indicated s h e did not want to serve because of the amount of time involved. The president also indicated he favors having a day care center on campus but does not feel it would draw more women to the university. Although he has applied to the federal govemment (Continued on Page 9) (Continuad from Page 7) Absurd, I say. Just as absurd as when 1, as Sports Editor, was denied an invitation to the Northeastern sports banquet because I was a girl. After writing a column which I understand incurred the wrath of many uninvolved coaches, 1 received an invite. But, I can rest assured that no females will be present at the next banquet. As far as safety at the Panther trials - the courtrooms each day are crawling with plain clothesmen and uniformed sheriffs. Yet, I was allowed to cover a case in the next courtroom involving a gang bang on two girls and a guy by a motorcycle club. This room was so "secure" that two of the defendants escaped, kidnaped two sheriffs, tied them to a tree and weren't seen a g a in for months. 1 feel these things as a woman and as a human, yet 1 am PUIItd one way toward the movement and another way away from it. 1 spurn the pettiness usad to get the attention of people who they think will listen, yet 1 am sornetimes made to feel guilty for degrading these things, because 1 realize the ultimate goal is 9ood and important. I only hope that those of us who want equality of the sexes in jobs, pay, etc. are not pushed off by the more militant femin. ists who want all or nothing. I also hope that someday, sorne of those who want all things the same, will realize how dull sameness can get after a while - and I mean sameness, not equality. Too few university woDien in top jobs (Continued from Paga 5) tarial duties but are being paid a flat secretaria! rate. Maryann MacClaughlin, who rose from clerk, secretary to assistant bursar, said she is very happy with the situation at Northeastern. "I think they've done wonderful by .~Jte." MaeClaughlin admits, however, that her salary is much lower than that of her male counterparts in the Bursar's office, but she feels that there is a justification for that, since they have degrees (she does not) and have to support their' families. "Really, the only objection 1 have is the money, and 1 definitely feel that is going to change, as soon as the university is able to." MacClaughlin explained that because of budget restrictions at the time of her appointment last November, she has not been able to receive more money. Her supervisors are all men, but she said the only time they really are above her is in making policy decisions. And they all have degrees, sbe added. The following chart represents a survey of instruccors, proiessors and administrators currently working within the university. It is divided int'o individual colleges and admínisfor a grant to fund such a cen- Knowles: we ·like wornen (Continuad from Page 5) best time was done under ideal . conditions and her average time probably wouldn't qualify her for one of the top five positions. Coach Baker was kinder-he felt she might make fourth place. lf a girl went out for the track team and was good enough, Cohen said he'd let her compete but he did not believe a girl could make his team. "They have a definite physical handicap in their physical makeup.11 Baseball Coach John Connelly. favors girls softball and baseball teams, but no intermixing. "A woman can compete in levels of good competition, but they have difficulty continuing for an extended period of time. A woman isn't physically made up for hard contact sports." MacClaughlin is the first WGman to hold the position of assistant bursar, and she admits "it took a long time getting it." Another assistant bursar, who is a male, got bis appointment more quickly than she did, but he had to go through the same positions, from filing to adjusting accounts. Severa! find that the picture at Northeastern is changing, albeit slowly. More women are "sticking it out" in the professional world, and this national phenomenon is beginning to show it· self here. trative departments. Numbers such as ''5 of 20'' refer to the number ol women as opposed to the total personnel in each department. ter, he noted that in a recent . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - . . . ; ._ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ __, survey taken by the Office of COLLEGE OF LIBERAL ARTS University Planning the faculty Teaching expressed little interest in a cenResearchers Professors lnstructon Assistants ter. Blology 5 of 22 Oof 2 2of 3 9 of 31 He personally does not like the Chemistry o of 23 4 of 18 Oof o 6 of 35 idea of a child care center beEarth Science o of o 1 of 7 1 of 6 Oof o cause, he said, "Most parents do Economics 1 of 13 Oof 1 Oof 8 1 of 13 not want their children to be English o of o 10 of 24 3 of 28 4 of 11 cared for by someone else." History o of o 2 of 11 2of 7 4 of 1~ He also apparently favors tbe Journalism Oof 1 Oof 2 Oof o Oof o idea of having women's studies. Mathematics Oof 5 3 of 35 Oof 3 7 of 71 Although he admitted to not havModern Languages o of o 11 of 17 2 of 12 Oof o ing thought much about it prior Music o of o 2of 7 Oof 2 Oof o to the interview he said he would Philosophy o of o 1 of 3 1 of 6 Oof o have no objections to it. "HowPhysics 1 of 10 O of 1 o of 38 2 of 30 ever, any program of this kind Political Science o of o o of 12 Oof 2 2of 9 has to originate with the faculty/' Psychology O of o o of 2 2 of 15 8 of 23 he said. Sociology. 3 of 14 2of 3 o of o 8 of 17 He indicated that he could see Anthropology such a program in women's studSCHOOL OF PHARMACY SCHOOL OF NURSING ies, which might be organized as 100 percent male 100 percent female a separate institute or through BOSTON BOUVE the Department of Sociology-An100 percent fema le COLLEGE OF BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION thropology, would include topics COLLEGE OF ENGINEERING 100 percent male such as women in politics, the 100 percent mal• role of women in society, and SCHOOL OF LAW UNIVERSITY PUBLIC RELATIONS women as leaders. Publications 2 of 6 editors O of 12 professors The pre~ident, indicating that 1 of 3 libarians Public lnformation 1 of 5 personnel he "would be very happy" to Student Affairs O of 2 admin. COLLEGE OF EDUCATION have sorne women vice presidents, Office of the Dean O of 5 deans 3 of 18 staff more women deans, and more 1 of 2 admin. asst. OFFICES women in all administrative poO of 4 aduc. admin. Office of the President 1 of 3 assistants sitions, stated that because of bis Foundations Academic Affairs 1 of 5 admin. 3 of 12 professon backgrouQd he was accustomed 11 lnstruction 3 of 11 professors University Administration O of 4 to the idea of women in posiReading O of 5 professors Admission Office 5 of 11 11 tions of leadership. 1 of 2 instructors Alumni Office 1 of 6 directon "I grew up in a family where 1 of 2 teaching asst. Alumni Records 3 of 4 admin. both parents were professionals, Special Education 4 of 9 professors Office of Liberal Arts 2 of 5 assistants so I grew up in an atmosphere" 2 of 2 teaching asst. Personnel Office 1 of 3 directors where the roan and woman were 13 of 33 staff members Public lnformatlon 1 of 5 admin. Educational Resources equal. Knowles' father was a lawCOLLEGE OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE Registrar's Offlce 3 of 16 " yer and judge and bis mother ad11 1 of 5 professors ReK.3rch AdministratiOR 2 of 7 ministered her own company. �
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Women at Northeastern: ASK states feminist equalization 'a slow process'
Northeastern University News
Northeastern University News
1971-02
1971-02
Women's liberation movement
Feminism
Women in the workplace
University administration
Women's liberation movement
Feminism
Women in the workplace
University administration
http://hdl.handle.net/2047/D20247233
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Women's liberation movement
Feminism
Women in the workplace
University administration
Women at Northeastern: ASK states feminist equalization 'a slow process'
Women at Northeastern: ASK states feminist equalization 'a slow process'
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1971/02/01
Women at Northeastern: ASK states feminist equalization 'a slow process'
1971-02
Women's liberation movement
Gelinas, Mary
Gelinas, Mary
Northeastern University News
Gelinas, Mary
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SuppleiDent: woiDen at Northeastern Co-op discrimination hampers placement by BARRY GILBERT "Discrlmination is a very underhanded thing,u said Roy L Wooldridge, vice· president and dean of co- operative education, in an interview on sex discrimi· nation in co- op jobs. The dean was refering to discrimination of all types-by race, and religion as well as sex-as he aclmowledged the difiiculty of proving charges of discrimination. 11 Wa could refuM to cleal with employers w. feel are discriml· nating -oalnst women," Wool· dridge ulcL "But what does that do to the men alrNdy worldng on co-op for that company? They would be out of a lob and that wouldn't be falr elther." The dean said that he has directed bis staff to ask employers if they would tate a woman as well as a man on co-op. •Tm sure discrimination because of sex still must happen on co-op jobs," he continued. ..The problem is that men think in terms of umen" for certain jobs, they never picture having a women for some of these jobs." "For insta.nce," he said, •'the word boy" is built into certain Job titles, like ofiice boy or copy boy. Its almost a tradition. rm sure tbis is cban:ging today but the surprise fadol' on the employers part still remains, they're just not used to the idea." The dean feels the co-op situation is a bit different because pay seales are based on the year of the student, rather than the whim of the employer. "A mlddler WOIMft would be Plid the sarne as • mlddler man," he said. ''The problem comes In placing women in certaln industries. lt would be v ry diff1cut to place a woman engineering student wlth a constructlon proi· ect; th refore, rnost wornen en· gineering rnaiors work for consulting flr4ms on the deslgning ttnd of the business/' Wooldridge estimated that coop unemployment is about six per cent now, including the two per cent which are usually not placed despite the economic situation. "The one tield the recession has not hit," the dean said, "is the health sciences." "And even here," he added, "discrimination can be a problem because of traditional ideas. A chief nurse in a hospital may not be ready for a male nursing student-a kind of reverse bounce." Demands and demonstrations to the co-op department by women have happened, Ryded added. "Two years ago we received a petition from wom.en in business admilli.stMtion," he explained. "They charged discrimination against certain employers because they didn't feel they were getting the same chances as a man of equal standing. ' "As 1 r.collect, we couldn't subst•ntla~a the charge. Discrimina· tlon ls not sornethlng you can really put your finger on. Usually its a feeling which only the in· dividuals lnvolved can expresa." The dean again explained how difficult it is to prove discrimination. "fve repeatedly told my people not to become a party to discrimination of any kind. I feel tbings are changing. Today it depends more on the ability level of a person rather than on sex." - Frank Moy, Jr. There are stiU the teas lor lemale transler students, and lemale seniors; there's still the the manifestation of women in a sexual stereotype in Carnival, Military Ball and HomecominA Queens. But, where are the opportunities for a woman to choose what she wants to do -the Iogical extension of treatinA her equally?" 11 Women 'can' gel top jobs-few do By AL YCE BOUCHARD Top executive positions here are overwhelmingly dominated by men. Only two of the 23 deans in the university are women, and of 31 associates and assistant deans, only four are women. The colleges and departments are almost exclusively headed by men, with the exception of the College of Nursing and Boston Bouve. Professional positions are highly male-dominated in all departments, again excepting Nursing and Boston Bouve. According to Kenneth G. Ryder, vice president of administration, this phenomena is mainly due to the fact that men go on for the doctoral degree in far greater numbers than women. "Women are hired on the same criteria as men," said Ryder. "But they don't get special consideration if they don't meet the qualifica tions." Ryder pointed out that the male-female ratios are dependent upon the fields - for instance, there are no female administra- ASK states feminist equalization 'a slow process' By MARY GELINAS "'f.he university is leaning over backwards to remedy" the paucity of women in top administrative and academic posts according to President Asa S. Knowles. The president indicated, in an interview last week, that he had emphasized the importance of hiring hoth women and blacks in memorandums to and discussions With university administrators and department heads. However, equalizing the number of women in higher education With that of men "is a slow process." Knowles indicated that the equalization would probably take a long time because of the number ~men in tenured positions, the ted number of those pos~, the 1 ength of time reqt.úred to gain tenureship, and the nwnber of women qualified to fill the positions. He feels the only way to change the situation is to fill positions with "qualified" women when they open. However, Knowles said that there are few positions open and that there is little turnover in administrative positions, t he re by making it impossible presently for women to be included in administration and leadership. Knowles indicated t h a t the dearth of women at the top, however, was not a result of discriminatory hiring practices. "The university never gives preference to men over women if they have the same administrative experience and ability. "In fact, I might even lean towards hiring women. I wish we had more women in administration. In the 25 years rve been in university administration rve observed that women do as good, and often better than men.'' He added that the quality of work depends on the individual and that "sex doesn't have anything to do with it" If, as Knowles stated, "Women are not being discriminated against in any way I can see or know about," then why are there only two fernale heads of colleges; why are all department heads, with the exception of those in Nursing and Boston Bouve, male; and why are only two of the 23 deans women? "It's been a matter of tradition," explained Knowles. 'The emphasis on women in administration is new." Referring to the total absence of women frorn the Division of Cooperative Education untill960, Knowles said it was ''nothing discriminatory. I don't think any women applied." (Continuecl on Page 8) tors or instructors in the School of Engineering, but in the College of Nursing, headed by Dean Juanita Long, 100 per cent are women. But in the Colleges of Liberal Arts and F!ducation there is mixed interest and the faculty composition is accordingly mixed, but with a much higher percentage of men holding executive and professional positions. Of the 114 full professors in the eight basic colleges, four aré women; of 185 associate professors, 21 are women; and of 175 assistant professors, 38 are women. For overall university statistics see the chart on Page 8. Ryder attributes this proportion to the number of women applicants. "1 am unaware of any conscious bias," he said in regards to biring and professional appointments. "We try to get people with doctorates, and if you look at the ratio of men to women going on for doctorate degrees, you find those with doctorates are overwhelmingly men," he said. Ryder noted that a higher percentage of women have applied for faculty positions this year, partly because of newly developing programs of greater interest to women. Sex makes no difference in hiring and appointments, according to Ryder. "Women are paid the same salaries as men in comparable positions." He pointed out that all salaries are based on scale, determined by position, and tenure, regardless of sex. On the other hand, many women whose jobs are defined as secretaria! have been handling assignments above their secre(Contlnuecl on Page 8) �Northeastern NEWS, February 19, 1971 Page 8 Female jocks receive little support • Doherty ••• by DALE KING Will women ever be competing with the men in varsity sports? Not likely, according to a poll taken among coaches and athletic department personnel. A separate league for the women to compete against one another at the varsity level was suggested as arr alternative to inte~ grating male and female athletes into present varsity ranks. "As long as there are true gentlemen - and let us hope there will always be true gentlemen there would always be the tendency among men to let the woman go ahead," said Athletic Director Herbert Gallagher. "In combative sports the gentlemen will always give way to the ladies." Gallagher noted that in a tennis match, for example, a man would not think twice about smashing the hall into the face of a male opponent. If the opponent were female "the man would likely hit the ball to one side." In track, if a male and female were running neck-to-neck, "a gentleman would let the lady ci'06s the fini's h line first." "Mala and female competition in hard contact varsity sports ls not practlcal," sald Asslstant Athletic Director Joe Zabllski, head coach of NU football. "lt might be fun for the boys, but lt wouldn't be fun for the glriL" Coach Zabilsk:i favored a gi'l"ls varsity league, noting that competition is good for both sexes. He added, however, that bo.th men and women could compete on an equal basis in track, swimming or other sports not requiring hard contact. "Girls should gf> in for the feminine sports which would develop their graces and ladylike qualities," said Zabilski. Football Line Coach Robert "Bo" Lyons agreed with Coach Zabilski noting that ''football is not the game for girls. 1 don't believe in contact sports other than on a date!" "They could probably play basehall," said Lyons, "but hockey and basketball isn't their place. You wouldn't want to see a girl with a broken nose, would you?'' "M n are physically stronger than women and 1 don't think the two will ever play hockey sideby-side,'' NU Hockey Coach Fernie Flaman said. "1 would like to s women play hockey on their own level if they are in· terested in playlng the game." "The contact of a hockey game sort of precludes the mixing of the two sexes - after all, there are other contact sports men and women can engage in!" lf Flaman e. er found a girl v with Bobby Orr's hockey abilities, however, "I'd personally use her, although there would be a question of eligibility." Track Coaches Irwin Cohen and Ev Baker tossed around the question of women in varsity sports by conjecturing on how Chi Chen, woman athlete of the year, would do in the Greater Boston College meet. Coach Cohen felt she probably wouldn't plaee, noting that her He mentioned that there were "many" women administrators in the Admissions Office, Division of Co-operative Education, and Graduate Placement. According to the Faculty Staff Directory there are five female administrators out of 11 in admissions; 31 of 64 in co-op; and one out of five in placement. Following the usual trend in the university only one of the five women in admissions is an assistant dean of admissions, the other four are assistant directors of admissions; only one is an associate professor in co-op, two are assistant professors, and the rest are instructors or administrative assistants; and the women in placement is an assistant placement officer. The lack of women administrators also explains why there are only two women - both elected by the faculty of the College of Nursing - on the 40member Faculty Senate. Although none of the ten administrationappointed members are women, Knowles said they have been in the past and that membership has to rotate. He said that one woman in administration indicated s h e did not want to serve because of the amount of time involved. The president also indicated he favors having a day care center on campus but does not feel it would draw more women to the university. Although he has applied to the federal govemment (Continued on Page 9) (Continuad from Page 7) Absurd, I say. Just as absurd as when 1, as Sports Editor, was denied an invitation to the Northeastern sports banquet because I was a girl. After writing a column which I understand incurred the wrath of many uninvolved coaches, 1 received an invite. But, I can rest assured that no females will be present at the next banquet. As far as safety at the Panther trials - the courtrooms each day are crawling with plain clothesmen and uniformed sheriffs. Yet, I was allowed to cover a case in the next courtroom involving a gang bang on two girls and a guy by a motorcycle club. This room was so "secure" that two of the defendants escaped, kidnaped two sheriffs, tied them to a tree and weren't seen a g a in for months. 1 feel these things as a woman and as a human, yet 1 am PUIItd one way toward the movement and another way away from it. 1 spurn the pettiness usad to get the attention of people who they think will listen, yet 1 am sornetimes made to feel guilty for degrading these things, because 1 realize the ultimate goal is 9ood and important. I only hope that those of us who want equality of the sexes in jobs, pay, etc. are not pushed off by the more militant femin. ists who want all or nothing. I also hope that someday, sorne of those who want all things the same, will realize how dull sameness can get after a while - and I mean sameness, not equality. Too few university woDien in top jobs (Continued from Paga 5) tarial duties but are being paid a flat secretaria! rate. Maryann MacClaughlin, who rose from clerk, secretary to assistant bursar, said she is very happy with the situation at Northeastern. "I think they've done wonderful by .~Jte." MaeClaughlin admits, however, that her salary is much lower than that of her male counterparts in the Bursar's office, but she feels that there is a justification for that, since they have degrees (she does not) and have to support their' families. "Really, the only objection 1 have is the money, and 1 definitely feel that is going to change, as soon as the university is able to." MacClaughlin explained that because of budget restrictions at the time of her appointment last November, she has not been able to receive more money. Her supervisors are all men, but she said the only time they really are above her is in making policy decisions. And they all have degrees, sbe added. The following chart represents a survey of instruccors, proiessors and administrators currently working within the university. It is divided int'o individual colleges and admínisfor a grant to fund such a cen- Knowles: we ·like wornen (Continuad from Page 5) best time was done under ideal . conditions and her average time probably wouldn't qualify her for one of the top five positions. Coach Baker was kinder-he felt she might make fourth place. lf a girl went out for the track team and was good enough, Cohen said he'd let her compete but he did not believe a girl could make his team. "They have a definite physical handicap in their physical makeup.11 Baseball Coach John Connelly. favors girls softball and baseball teams, but no intermixing. "A woman can compete in levels of good competition, but they have difficulty continuing for an extended period of time. A woman isn't physically made up for hard contact sports." MacClaughlin is the first WGman to hold the position of assistant bursar, and she admits "it took a long time getting it." Another assistant bursar, who is a male, got bis appointment more quickly than she did, but he had to go through the same positions, from filing to adjusting accounts. Severa! find that the picture at Northeastern is changing, albeit slowly. More women are "sticking it out" in the professional world, and this national phenomenon is beginning to show it· self here. trative departments. Numbers such as ''5 of 20'' refer to the number ol women as opposed to the total personnel in each department. ter, he noted that in a recent . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - . . . ; ._ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ __, survey taken by the Office of COLLEGE OF LIBERAL ARTS University Planning the faculty Teaching expressed little interest in a cenResearchers Professors lnstructon Assistants ter. Blology 5 of 22 Oof 2 2of 3 9 of 31 He personally does not like the Chemistry o of 23 4 of 18 Oof o 6 of 35 idea of a child care center beEarth Science o of o 1 of 7 1 of 6 Oof o cause, he said, "Most parents do Economics 1 of 13 Oof 1 Oof 8 1 of 13 not want their children to be English o of o 10 of 24 3 of 28 4 of 11 cared for by someone else." History o of o 2 of 11 2of 7 4 of 1~ He also apparently favors tbe Journalism Oof 1 Oof 2 Oof o Oof o idea of having women's studies. Mathematics Oof 5 3 of 35 Oof 3 7 of 71 Although he admitted to not havModern Languages o of o 11 of 17 2 of 12 Oof o ing thought much about it prior Music o of o 2of 7 Oof 2 Oof o to the interview he said he would Philosophy o of o 1 of 3 1 of 6 Oof o have no objections to it. "HowPhysics 1 of 10 O of 1 o of 38 2 of 30 ever, any program of this kind Political Science o of o o of 12 Oof 2 2of 9 has to originate with the faculty/' Psychology O of o o of 2 2 of 15 8 of 23 he said. Sociology. 3 of 14 2of 3 o of o 8 of 17 He indicated that he could see Anthropology such a program in women's studSCHOOL OF PHARMACY SCHOOL OF NURSING ies, which might be organized as 100 percent male 100 percent female a separate institute or through BOSTON BOUVE the Department of Sociology-An100 percent fema le COLLEGE OF BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION thropology, would include topics COLLEGE OF ENGINEERING 100 percent male such as women in politics, the 100 percent mal• role of women in society, and SCHOOL OF LAW UNIVERSITY PUBLIC RELATIONS women as leaders. Publications 2 of 6 editors O of 12 professors The pre~ident, indicating that 1 of 3 libarians Public lnformation 1 of 5 personnel he "would be very happy" to Student Affairs O of 2 admin. COLLEGE OF EDUCATION have sorne women vice presidents, Office of the Dean O of 5 deans 3 of 18 staff more women deans, and more 1 of 2 admin. asst. OFFICES women in all administrative poO of 4 aduc. admin. Office of the President 1 of 3 assistants sitions, stated that because of bis Foundations Academic Affairs 1 of 5 admin. 3 of 12 professon backgrouQd he was accustomed 11 lnstruction 3 of 11 professors University Administration O of 4 to the idea of women in posiReading O of 5 professors Admission Office 5 of 11 11 tions of leadership. 1 of 2 instructors Alumni Office 1 of 6 directon "I grew up in a family where 1 of 2 teaching asst. Alumni Records 3 of 4 admin. both parents were professionals, Special Education 4 of 9 professors Office of Liberal Arts 2 of 5 assistants so I grew up in an atmosphere" 2 of 2 teaching asst. Personnel Office 1 of 3 directors where the roan and woman were 13 of 33 staff members Public lnformatlon 1 of 5 admin. Educational Resources equal. Knowles' father was a lawCOLLEGE OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE Registrar's Offlce 3 of 16 " yer and judge and bis mother ad11 1 of 5 professors ReK.3rch AdministratiOR 2 of 7 ministered her own company. �
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1971-02
1971-02
Women's liberation movement
Feminism
Women in the workplace
University administration
Women's liberation movement
Feminism
Women in the workplace
University administration
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Women's liberation movement
Feminism
Women in the workplace
University administration
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1971-02
Women's liberation movement
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Northeastern University News
1971-02
1971-02
Women's liberation movement
Feminism
Women in the workplace
University administration
Women's liberation movement
Feminism
Women in the workplace
University administration
http://hdl.handle.net/2047/D20260058
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Women's liberation movement
Feminism
Women in the workplace
University administration
Knowles: we like women
Knowles: we like women
knowles we like women
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Knowles: we like women
1971-02
Women's liberation movement
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Northeastern University News
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